Likeness to Chi-Li, my spiritual guide

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The following are excerpts taken from recorded interviews with Frances
about how she perceives "spiritworld" and the mechanics of how communication
occurs through sight, sound and feeling.

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Q:      I've noticed the difference between how you and other psychics/channellers work - it has been my experience that we are often presented with information from a psychic that merely confirms our own hopes, dreams and expectations as being true, or that we may be given information of a higher nature from a guide. I've never quite felt that that kind of reading proved anything to me one way because it didn't give me more than I already knew. It wasn't of real value. Can you explain to me the way you pull through information that proves you are communicating with a loved one on the other side that the client knows thus giving information to the client that is not only completely relevant, but meaningful and truthful?

Frances:     When you get a reading from a psychic that confirms what you already know about yourself, there is value there. It means that's confirmation that you are listening to your higher self, which is important in itself. You need to have it confirmed that what you're listening to is right. It is far from meaningless, but there is a difference, and there's a lot of people - it's been my experience, to know that some psychics that I've seen working I believe think that they are communicating with spirit. Well they are - they are communicating with spirit incarnate, that's the recipient spirit, not the spirit discarnate, i.e. spiritworld. So, the difference there, is that you are working on a different kind of vibration altogether - it's a higher vibration working with spirit. So, we now assume that you were coming to me for a spiritual communication.

Q:     How do I know that what you are going to tell me is something new, not just a confirmation of what I'm hoping is real?

Frances:    Well there's no guarantee that I can bring you what you want, that's first off, because I can't dictate to spirit what they should say to you. Spirit only come to you because they want to come to you, they come to you because they love you, - just because they've left this earthly vibration and moved on doesn't mean they don't care for you - they still have your interest at heart. They've taken their emotional body with them, and their emotional body was tied to you in some way, so they still feel the emotion that comes from you, they still feel the sadness, the joy - all those kinds of emotions they will pick up on. So it's natural if they see you in some form of despair here on earth - when they were here they would have wanted to help you in those situations and that doesn't change. Now the thing that does change is that the way they can come across with this help for you, and I can't intervene in that for you. I can't say, well look, I've got Sue here and she wants to speak to John, for instance, and Sue wants John to tell her x,y,and z. John can only tell me that if John knows how to tell me that. Only if he knows how to get that communication across to me.

Q:    You're talking about the vibration?

Frances:   Yes, the vibration. How that works is that each sound, each word, has it's own vibration and each sound is vibration. Now John may have learnt how to play with certain vibrations to make them vibrate back to earth. If he can't get it in word form to me in word form. You see his vibration has to link very closely to my own vibration, and if it doesn't then I can't pull John or anybody else through. You could have a dozen different mediums standing in front of you, and maybe only one or two would able to link into to John and his vibration.

Q:    So, for instance if I went to a message night at the local spiritualist church here, the medium may never pick me because the person who wants to talk to me in spiritworld can't get through to the medium?

Frances:    Absolutely. I look at this like standing in the cue in a supermarket. How many people are standing there trying to come through to each medium to get a message through. They are desperate to get through to their loved ones. Each medium has their own vibration, everybody on this earth has a different vibration, it's like having a signature, your own signature is unique to you. No two people have the same signature. No two people have exactly the same vibration.

Q:    And not every person can read your signature.

Frances:     Exactly, so then you're talking about reading signatures. It's like reading energies. Sometimes you can look at a person's handwriting and say, I can hardly read that, I can't understand what they've put down, it's not clear enough to you. Well, writing is a vibration, handwriting is a vibrations. It's all tied up in a similar kind of way. So therefore you get a medium who's brining this information through, they might not be able to get through to you with John. So you've got two people that possibly can, one of those people probably will bring John through clearer than the next. Then again if you've got two people who's vibrations are very very similar, you have them working side by side, and one would pick up where the other left off. So continue the message. So it all depends on how your vibration works with the individual person. Now you yourself play an important part here.

Q:     Because my energy is in the equation too.

Frances:   Of course it is, it's a triangle. So it's from spirit, the discarnate, to spirit, the medium, to spirit, the recipient. Your own voice vibration when you're working with the medium, and I don't mean feeding information. I just mean coming back, responding in some way, saying yes, or no, or that you don't understand. Then that vibration of your voice is going back to spiritworld and it's feeding the work that spiritworld, the energy to latch on and come back with some more work, some more voice to me.

Q:     So it's important for the person who's getting the reading to interact with you at some level verbally, rather than just sit there.

Frances:    Well if they sat there and there was no feedback from them, all that you've got there is two vibrations. You've got mine and the world of spirit. Well, it's not me they want to talk to, they are only working through me like a telephone operator, it's you they've come to speak to, so your part in this is vitally important. It continues the circle. So, coming back to the vibration and how spirit can get these words across-- now, if they can understand what you're saying and they can feed on that information from you, i.e. from your vibration, they can work well with me, and they can get across to my vibration and I can hear them as clearly as I can hear you now talking to me. Other times, whether they haven't learnt to use the vibration to make particular words or whether they are not able, not sure how that works, but if they are not able to voice so I can hear their answers back, it's obvious they've got to find another way.

     For instance, supposing you were dealing with a person who was deaf and dumb, and you wanted to have a conversation with that person, there's always another way around having that conversation. You could learn to use sign language, couldn't you? You don't have to speak, but you're getting across what you want to say. So, if spiritworld can't tell me what they want to say they will show me symbolism. Now symbolism can mean so many things to different people so this is where you play a part in this communication. If they show me something - it can mean one thing to me - it can mean something totally different to you.

Q:    You don't try to interpret it for anybody…..

Frances:     No, no, no, I will bring you the symbol; I will tell you exactly what spirit is showing to me, and I would say to you - would you understand that? And they might just be trying to show you a symbol that means something so specific to you that that in itself gives the evident that spirit is there. Now, just supposing you don't understand that symbol, then I'll come back and I'll say to you - Ok, you don't understand that symbol, it could mean this, because this is what it would mean to me and I would tell you what it meant to me. And then somehow we'd go back and we'd say to spirit, try something else, because your loved one doesn't quite understand what you're trying to say here. I would say to spirit - this is what it means to me - does it mean that? -  and now it's very easy then for spirit to either nod or shake a head here and I can see that.

Q:     When you say you can see spirit people are you talking literally?

Frances:     I see spirit in a vague form if you like. Again, some spirits are stronger than others. Again their vibration plays an important part here. If they are strong energy then they can look as clear to me as you look to me now . other times they can be very shadowy. They can be just a shadow. Again it all depends then on the energy of spiritworld. I can not dictate to them - look, this is what I want from you. I can do it - but I'll not get an answer. Cause it takes spirit, it's their own energy, they only come through if they want to, when they want to. Andhow they want to. I have no control over that.

Q:     If they are a little vague visually, just a shadow, but they want to get across to you evidence about themselves that might pertain to their physical body, how do you then receive that information if you can't see them?

Frances:     Well, they put a vibration on to my body. They'll put a feeling onto me. That's clairsentient . What we've been talking about so far is clairvoyance. It's seeing spirit. And clairaudience is hearing them. Very often if spirit can't talk to me and tell me how they passed, they will put a feeling onto my body, for instance if someone passed from lung cancer from smoking or whatever, then spirit will put a feeling on to me of pain in the lungs, difficulty breathing. I also smell very strongly smoke when it comes through. That tells me straight away that this soul was a smoker. And the stronger I smell the smoke the more cigarettes this person smoked when he was upon this earth.

Q:     Of all the ways of perceiving spirit, clairvoyant, clairsentient, clairaudient - which is your strongest sense?

Frances:     I can't say I've got one that's stronger. I've got to say they are equal.

Q:     When you tell me you hear them, it amazes me that you actually hear their earth voices. Please explain that it's not a voice in your head.

Frances:     You're hearing the voices in through the right side, because that's the side spirit works with, with your hearing. So the voices come in on the right side of the body, and sometimes it can be a little bit crackily, a little bit like a bad telephone line. Imagine picking up the phone and you're ringing somewhere out of town, your own country, but you've got a bad line, it's very crackily, or it sounds as if the voices are in a tunnel, and it's echoy . It's that kind of sound. If it's a good vibration, a real strong vibration then it's quite clear.

Q:     Like you are hearing me?

Frances:     Yea, a little bit softer. But it's quite clear, quite clear sounding.

Q:     You told me once it was like a sine wave, it gets stronger than weaker.

Frances:     It does yea. All vibration does that. No matter which way you're communicating. All vibration does that. It peaks and troughs. All life form has these same maneuvers, the ocean ebbing and tiding, the moon waxing and waning.

Q:     When you are talking to me now, you don't hear the vibrational fluctuations of my voice...

Frances:     Well, for an example, you take this recorder now and walk 20 or 30 yards in front of me, and you'd have a job to hear my voice, and visa versa, it's fading out into the distance because you're going further away from me. Well speaking to spirit is the same. Except, it's not because they are further away from me, because they are not, they are all around me. They're not on a cloud somewhere, it's here and now, all around us. Our loved ones are not in a place floating somewhere, they are here, now, everywhere around us. There is no such thing as space, there is something, or somebody, some energy form living in it. What we call space. So really what we are are two worlds compact together. Very tightly compact . This is why I think now science is learning to recognize this word holographic images they now know there are other dimensions.

Q:     You've often said to me that when a spirit comes through he is allotted a certain amount of space, not time, can you explain that?

Frances:     Well, they don't deal in time. Time is a man made thing. They deal in space. Floating about in space if you like. We're floating about in space. What we've got here in space, somewhere in this space around us now, there are spirit entities. From the next world if you like, that are intertwined with ours. Because there is spirit in this space, a certain number of those spirit will vibrate at the same rate I'm vibrating, and it's those spirits who will be able to communicate through me. But there's other spirits around here, with us now, that are not vibrating at my pace, therefore no communication would be made through me with those people. It would take another medium to link with those.

Q:    If you're receiving space was, let's say arbitrarily, was 100 feet, and that space was all taken up with spirits, and there's no real room around you for someone who even would vibrate at your level, say John, then he can't get in here.

Frances:     Somebody else would be there in front of him.

Q:     Does someone who wants your space take up all the space or only part of it?

Frances:     Only part of it. They will be allotted so much space.

Q:     Does he have to negotiate with someone who's in your space, to have that space if he wants to communicate?

Frances:     Well, I don't know how that works, it's normally decided by the guides. Take John for instance. He will speak with his own guide, who will speak to my guide Chi Li and establish a connection. They will decide if John and I are compatible If so, then John's allowed to come through and speak with my guide to ask for the space to communicate. Chi Li will monitor who comes through based on my energy. Supposing I had two or three people on the other side waiting to come through to speak to loved ones and John's already been through two or three days ago, then he would be held back, like in a cue if you like, he'd have to take his turn. So it's all fairness, it all about balance.

Q:      You mentioned there needs to be this gap of time, for the spirit person to build up his energies again.

Frances:     Energy is energy. When you've spent it, you need to build it up again for good communication next time.


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